Chatter
| Volume 71 No. 3 |
March, 2025 |
Editor’s Notes
This Chatter issue is earlier and smaller than usual, because it is
being sent before I go to the ANA’s NMS in Atlanta.
The minutes of the CCC’s February board meeting will be in the April
Chatter issue.
Reminder: 2025 dues are due by March 31.
The December Chatter started with a dues-are-due announcement.
If you are emailed a link to the online Chatter, the email to the
December issue stated your 2025 dues status at that time.
If you are mailed a printed Chatter, check the top right corner
of the current mailing label – a single digit of 4 means that
your 2025 dues were not yet paid (as of a week before the mailing).
Paul Hybert, editor
Minutes of the 1273rd Meeting
The 1273rd meeting of the Chicago Coin Club was called to order by
President Melissa Gumm at 6:45pm on Wednesday, February 12, 2025.
This was an online-only meeting due to snow storms in Chicago.
Attendance was 43 members and three guests, for a total of 46.
Guests were the program presenter, one guest applying for membership, and
one guest attending for the program.
Club Meeting Minutes
The January club meeting minutes were approved as published in the
Chatter, both in print and on the CCC website.
New Members
Secretary Scott McGowan completed the second membership application
readings for Joseph Stypka of Chicago, Illinois, a collector of
Canadian Large Cents, and Daniel Montoya of Oak Park, Illinois, a
collector of US Classic and Modern coinage.
The club voted to approve both members.
The first reading was completed for Brian Hobdy of Franklin, Kentucky,
a collector of ancients and medieval coinage.
Treasurer’s Report
Treasurer Elliott Krieter presented the December 2024 and January 2025
period treasurer’s reports:
December income of $595.00 (Banquet, Dues), Expenses $2,528.73 (Banquet,
Chatter expense), for a period total of -$1,933.73;
January income $920.00 (Dues, Banquet Apps), Expenses $17.00 (Corp fee,
Bank fee), for a period total of $903.00.
The report was accepted and approved by the club membership.
Old Business
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President Melissa Gumm reminded members that 2025 dues are now due.
Pay by check to the PO Box, or via ZELLE banking app and use
treasurer.chicagocoinclub@gmail.com
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Committee Reports:
Special Projects and Hall of Fame committees indicated no report.
Legacy committee – Dale Lukanich reported that interviews will
resume in April, and we have time for two interviews on Wednesday, April
23 at 4pm at the CSNS convention.
New Business
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Melissa Gumm reported CCC members took awards at the Florida United
Numismatists (FUN) show, taking two of the seven first place Educational
exhibit awards at the FUN SHOW.
Richard Jozefiak took first place in Medals, Orders, Decorations &
Tokens for his exhibit “Token for an Ice Worm Cocktail in
Alaska.”
Mark Wieclaw received first place in the Foreign Coin Category with his
exhibit titled “A Selection of Ancient Mint Errors, Oddities, and
Curiosities.”
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Melissa noted that a FUN show attendee mentioned that he had spoken at the
2024 World’s Fair of Money and had received a beautiful
speaker’s medal, had thought it a great gesture, and was very proud
of the CCC speaker’s medal.
Also, an article in the February issue of World Coin News made
mention of the CCC members sharing their collections with exhibits at the
2024 ANA convention.
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Secretary Scott McGowan relayed a communication to the club members from
Bob Leonard about the 2027 International Numismatic Congress in Frankfurt,
Germany.
Bob wrote: “While it is over two years away, if anyone has important
research to present (such as mint errors on Roman coins and their
implications, etc.) in a 20-minute PowerPoint lecture, now is the time to
start planning and obtaining the applications.
Frankfurt is very easy to get to from O’Hare, and German is not
necessary to enjoy the Congress.
Even if you don’t have anything to present, the knowledge you will
gain will be great.
I didn’t offer a paper the first time I attended INC.
Also, it is possible to offer a ‘poster paper’ – no
PowerPoint, just a big poster showing your work (coins, maps, and text);
an hour or two is allotted during the Congress, during which the
presenters stand by their posters and answer questions from other
attendees.
(A very low-key way to present information, and I learned from one of
these posters a few years ago that the small copper medieval coins of
Northumbria circulated throughout much of Britain.)
The last Congress was in Warsaw in 2022, and the Proceedings are in the
process of being published in FOUR volumes!
The Congress is heavy on Greek coins, less so on Roman, but includes
ancient Jewish, Byzantine, medieval, Oriental (you will hear opinions not
printed in the standard references!), medals, and literature.
There is very little on modern coins and paper money, but I would
encourage anyone wanting to offer a paper on Bosnian propaganda
‘currency,’ say, to give it a try.”
Details are at
https://inc2027.org/
Featured Program
Elizabeth Hahn Benge on Roman Imperial Portraits in Coins and Sculpture
at the Art Institute of Chicago.
The presentation looked at imperial marble portraits through a preview of
the upcoming exhibition “Myth & Marble: Ancient Roman Sculpture
from the Torlonia Collection,” which opens at the Art Institute of
Chicago on March 15 and runs through June 29, 2025.
Show and Tell
Second Vice President Ray Dagenais announced the nine Show and Tell
presentations for the evening.
President Melissa Gumm adjourned the meeting at 8:42pm CST.
Respectfully Submitted,
Scott A. McGowan,
Secretary
Speaker’s Wor[l]d
Roman Imperial Portraits in Coins and Sculpture at the Art Institute of Chicago
by
Elizabeth Hahn Benge,
presented to our February 12, 2025 meeting
Elizabeth opened her presentation with a slide showing the Chicago Coin
Club 100th anniversary medal that was presented to the Art Institute in
2020 as a gift, and she reported on how nicely it is preserved and cared
for in the museum archives and special collections (housed along with
other Chicago related items).
She then began her talk with a quick summary of a new exhibition opening
at the AIC next month – Myth & Marble: Ancient Roman
Sculpture from the Torlonia Collection – and used that as a
segue to look at some of the Roman coin collections at the museum.
The Torlonia exhibition is a big deal for the museum because ancient art
rarely holds the headliner showplace at the museum and it’s been
since about 1978 that the museum last had an ancient art headlining
exhibition (this was when the anniversary Pompeii exhibition came to
Chicago).
The Torlonia Collection contains an impressive 620 works total, which
includes portraits, scenes of mythology, funerary monuments, and more, and
it is arguably the largest private collection of its kind in the world.
The collection was long unseen to the public after its formation in the
19th century, aside from a catalog of black and white phototype
illustrations published in 1884-85 by Carlo Ludovico Visconti (1818-1894).
Access to the collections was highly restrictive.
In late 2020, a number of the sculptures were conserved and exhibited at
the Capitoline Museums in Rome, the first time they had been made
available to the public in over seventy years.
The show then traveled to Milan in 2022, and in the summer of 2024 to the
Louvre in Paris.
After closing in France, an entirely new exhibition featuring a different
selection of works from the collection will make its North American debut
at the Art Institute of Chicago.
The exhibition, which runs from March 15-June 29, 2025, will feature
fifty-eight outstanding sculptures from the collection, twenty-six of
which have been newly cleaned, conserved, and studied specifically for
this project.
After Chicago, the show then travels on to the Kimbell Art Museum in Fort
Worth, Texas and then ends in summer 2026 at the Montreal Museum of Fine
Arts.
Although the artworks that will be on view in the exhibition are
predominantly ancient Roman marble sculptures (along with one over
life-size bronze), themes of the show have parallels in other media,
especially coins.
Elizabeth used examples from the Torlonia installation to discuss the Art
Institute’s robust collection of Roman imperial coins (especially
aurei) and used Marcus Aurelius as a case study to explore some of
the features seen in portraits executed in sculpture and on coins.
Although the museum does rely heavily on loans to fill thematic gaps in
the display narratives, the department does still actively (though
infrequently) acquire through both purchase and gift as a way to grow the
collections.
The galleries are always changing and especially in the last few years
some things have been moving around, including coin displays.
They also recently hired a Kress Interpretive Fellow to work specifically
on coin displays and their presentation in our galleries.
Although there are currently only 34 ancient coins on display in the
gallery with another 50 or so planned to go out this year, all are
photographed and online and fully searchable on the museum website
(https://www.artic.edu/collection).
The emperor Marcus Aurelius is well represented in coins and sculpture
both as a youth and as a mature adult.
His youthful appearance – with rather lively hairstyle and
near-absent facial hair – on early gold coins aligns with his
similarly beardless and youthful sculpture types as seen in the Torlonia
example.
Marcus’s portraits continued to evolve, with increased beard growth
and a more mature countenance, likely indicative of his changing physical
appearance and advancing age in real life.
After he became emperor in 161 CE, more restraint can be seen in the
hairstyle, a much fuller and curly beard, and a still more aged and calm
demeanor in both coins and sculpture.
Portraits of members of the imperial family, especially its women, were
also important and reflected contemporary fashion trends and hairstyles.
This is visible in elements of the portrait of Faustina the Younger, the
wife of Marcus Aurelius and daughter of Antoninus Pius.
Her changing hairstyle has been used to classify her portraits, and her
profile on the obverse of an aureus in Chicago depicts a typical
hairstyle of wavy locks, gathered in a knot at the nape of her neck and
parted in the middle at the forehead, that appeared in her portraits made
after 161 CE.
Marble sculptures could be re-carved, damaged, and restored, both in
antiquity and in modern times, and a number of examples in the Torlonia
Collection have been re-carved, which has caused scholars to reattribute
some identifications over time.
Elizabeth concluded by looking at a few examples of those from Torlonia
and how they pair with Art Institute aurei.
Details for this exhibition are at
https://www.artic.edu/exhibitions/10257/myth-marble-ancient-roman-sculpture-from-the-torlonia-collection
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Show and Tell
Items shown at our January 8, 2025 meeting,
reported by Ray Dagenais.
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Tyler Rossi
displayed a propaganda banknote issued by the German occupying forces in
Slovenia during the People’s Liberation War in Slovenia in 1944.
The obverse states: This denar is as worthless as the promises from
Moscow and London.
The reverse is a copy of a lithographed 10 Lir/Dinar note issued by
Yugoslav partisans (Slovenian National Liberation Committee) in 1944.
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Zach Filis
continued his introduction of George Mills, the engraver from the early
1800s.
During the creation of historic medals, Mills struck artist proofs, or
trials, of his engravings prior to striking the final version of his
medals.
These proofs were struck so that he could make slight adjustments to the
medals, if needed, to accurately represent what he wanted to convey.
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A copper artist proof showing the bust of Benjamin West before any
adjustments were made; the reverse is incused with the bust image.
In the close-up of the obverse, one can notice a series of lines or cuts
around the bust made by Mills in order to make any adjustments that he
deemed appropriate.
West is known as the father of American painting.
He was an American from Pennsylvania who left to study in Italy and upon
his return, he stopped off in England and never returned to America.
West opened a studio in London where he was selected as the court painter
for King George III.
West was one of the founders of the Royal Academy of Arts in London.
He opened his studio and home to young painters from America who wished
to study in London; these students included some of the greatest painters
in American History.
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An example of the finished product; this bust was struck with a few
different reverses.
West regarded Mills as the first medalist in England – very high
praise.
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A silver artist proof of Sir Henry Charles Englefield, a President of the
Society of Antiquities among other prominent positions and honors.
As with the earlier proof, the reverse is incused.
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An example of the final medal.
Among the previous owners of this proof were Samuel Henry Hamer and
Francis Stewart Cokayne; both men had spectacular collections.
Francis was a London stockbroker who specialized in 18th and 19th century
tokens.
Hamer was known for having a token collection that was probably second to
none.
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A photograph of Hamer sitting in front of his cabinet, examining one of
his treasures; who knows – possibly this one.
Zach said that it is unusual to find an image of a previous owner in front
of his cabinet where the artist proof shown would have been stored.
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Laurence Edwards
followed up his previous
presentation
with a little more information on Chicago coin dealer (and active member
of the CCC), R. Green, who was active in Chicago a few years before
Laurence was old enough to be interested.
R Green is the name of a husband and wife firm: Charles Elmore Green and
Ruth Scrivner.
Charles was wounded in WWI.
In the very first edition (October 1953) of Central States’ The
Sentinel (later, The Centinel) appeared, “Greetings from
the Chicago Coin Club.”
Included was an announcement of the Annual Banquet, which would feature
an auction run by R. Green.
Early Blue Books and Red Books acknowledge R. Green as a contributor.
This past month, Laurence saw an eBay a listing of four price lists from
R. Green.
Laurence does not generally collect old price lists, mostly because they
just make him sorry that he couldn’t have bought more back then;
but he acquired these price lists from 1950, 1951, and 1955.
The firm’s address changed several times: 1945 Crosby reprint
– Board of Trade, 141 W. Jackson; 1950-51 Bargain List
– 220 S. State St, 14th floor; 1955 Bargain List #49 –
180 W. Washington St; and November 1955 – a PO Box in Skokie.
In the last of these lists was a note: “Due to the ill health of
both my husband and myself this long established and profitable coin
business is offered for sale … profit has increased more than 250%
during the past four years … $100,000.
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Richard Hathaway
showed a French 1637-M (Toulouse) ½ Franc in an NGC holder graded
VF Details - Graffiti, but the label has mis-attributed the coin as a
1637-L (Bayonne) ¼ Ecu.
This coin has some mild/moderate graffiti on the reverse, but is otherwise
a very well preserved piece with an even gray patina.
The coin is 0.833 fine silver.
Monnaies Royales Francaises Et De La Revolution by Arnaud Clairand
lists 3 varieties for the 1637-M ½ Franc that year – one with
a star before the date, one with no mark, and one with the letter
‘B’ before the date.
This example has the letter ‘B’ before the date, the mark for
the new mint master who took over operations beginning November 2, 1637.
Thus, this coin was minted in either November or December 1637.
Clairand estimates the mintage for this variety at 36,018.
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Mark Wieclaw
began his presentation with the question, “What in the World
Happened on June 4, 1361?”
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He showed a $20 Federal Reserve Note with the serial number PK00641361A,
and proceeded to describe the the Battle of Visby, July 22, 1361, showing
a map of the Scandinavian countries and a map of the island of Gotland,
followed by a drawing of King Valdemar IV of Denmark (1340-1375) and a
drawing of a fierce battle.
After the Gotlanders surrendered, the fortress was penetrated; three large
beer barrels (empty) were placed in the city center, and Valdemar demanded
that they be filled with silver and gold – if not, the city would be
pillaged.
The barrels were filled before nightfall.
Mass graves were excavated between 1905-1928; among the dead: more than
1800 Gotlanders (men, women and children), and more than 300 Danish
soldiers.
This is the largest medieval mass grave and the best preserved medieval
wall in Scandinavia.
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A silver Roman denarius (18.5mm, 3.26 grams) showing Julia Domna, wife
of Septimius Severus (173-211), on the obverse and the Goddess of Virtue
on the reverse.
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A Roman antoninianus (23.0mm, 4.66 grams) depicting Venus on the reverse.
Things ended badly: Severus died in February, 211 while on an expedition;
his son Geta was murdered in February, 212 by order of his brother
Caracalla; Caracalla was murdered in April, 217 while on patrol; and
Julia Domna commited suicide by self starvation in 217.
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Deven Kane
showed two coins.
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A bronze coin from the city of Philippopolis in Thrace, 26mm in diameter
and weighing 10.89 grams.
The obverse features a draped bust of Faustina II, wife of Roman emperor
Marcus Aurelius, while the reverse features a standing Demeter, holding
grain ears and torch.
Philippopolis is one of the names of the ancient city situated where
Plovdiv is today – other name were Thracian Eumolpia/Pulpudeva, and
Roman Trimontium.
The city became one of the largest and most important in the region, and
was called “the largest and most beautiful of all cities” by
Lucian.
During most of its recorded history, the city was known by the name
Philippopolis after Philip II of Macedon.
Philippopolis became part of the Roman Empire and the capital of the Roman
province of Thracia.
According to Ammianus Marcellinus, Philippopolis had a population of
100,000 in the Roman period.
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One of the first coins from the Empire of Trebizond – acquired when
a close-to-opening bid won a silver Aspron Trachy of Andronicus I Gidon
(1222-1235).
This scyphate (cup-shaped) coin is 26mm in diameter and weighs 2.83 grams.
One side features a standing facing Virgin, while the other side features
Christ Chalkites standing, facing, and nimbate.
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Kurt Hyde
recently bought a number of Karl Goetz medals at an auction.
He showed us one, remembering the Hindenburg catastrophe that happened on
May 6, 1937.
The death toll was 35 of the 92 persons on board, plus one ground crewman.
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Gerard Anaszewicz
showed two ancient Roman coins.
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A silver denarius of Trajan (96-117) showing his portrait on the obverse
and Trajan’s column in Rome on the reverse.
Trajan’s column celebrates his victories over the Dacians of Eastern
Europe, who lived between the Carpathian mountains and the Black Sea.
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A bronze sestertius of Julia Mamaea, circa 222-225AD, featuring her
portrait on the obverse and Venus holding Cupid on the reverse.
Julia was the mother of future emperor Severus Alexander.
Venus is the Roman god of love, and Cupid is the god of Desire.
These were the first coins he ever bought; acquired from the coin
department in Marshall Fields while he worked at that store, purchased on
an installment plan.
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Jeff Amelse
showed the progression of die states of a relatively common Civil War
Token (Fuld 47/332).
His slides showed five of these tokens, in die states with progressively
more die cracks on the obverse and swelling and crumbling areas on the
reverse.
In the final die state, the obverse has a heavy internal cud and the
reverse’s design was weakly struck opposite that heavy cud; the dies
probably failed soon after.
Civil War Tokens were privately issued, so quality control was not a high
priority.
Reminders:
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You can email to Ray a description of what you will
show at a meeting, to give him a start on this write-up.
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Send it to cccshowandtell@gmail.com
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After a meeting, all members who viewed the meeting should
email him their scoring sheet – a listing of each
exhibit number followed by a score (from a low of 1 to a high of
10) is all that is needed.
Minutes of the Chicago Coin Club Board
The minutes of the February 19, 2025 CCC Board Meeting will be in the April
Chatter.
Our 1274th Meeting
| Date: |
March 12, 2025 |
| Time: |
6:45PM CDT (UTC-05:00) |
| Location: |
Downtown Chicago
At the Chicago Bar Association, 321 S. Plymouth Court, 3rd or 4th floor meeting room.
Please remember the security measures at our meeting building:
everyone must be prepared to show their photo-ID and register at the guard’s desk.
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| Online: |
For all the details on participating
online in one of our club meetings, visit our Online Meeting
webpage at
www.chicagocoinclub.org/meetings/online_meeting.html.
Participation in an online meeting requires some advance
work by both our meeting coordinator and attendees,
especially first-time participants.
Please plan ahead; read the latest instructions
on the day before the meeting!
Although we try to offer a better experience, please be
prepared for possible diifficulties.
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| Featured Program: |
Ray Feller and Steve Feller, with help from Katie Ameku and Momo McCloskey-Feller —
Money Used in Japanese-American Internment Camps
In 1942, President Franklin D. Roosevelt approved a plan to round-up over
110,000 Japanese Americans who were mostly citizens of the United States.
Initially, they were sent to nearby “Assembly Centers” such as
the Pomona Fairgrounds and Santa Anita Race Track in California.
In time, they were sent to “Relocation Centers” in the interior
of the United States in states such as Colorado, Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, and
Arkansas.
In these places, life went on for years and a wide variety of money came
into existence.
This included tokens, coupons, scrip, ration cards, and more.
Our talk will discuss these numismatic items as well as a description of
our visits to four campsites, the Japanese American museum in Little Tokyo
Los Angeles, California, and the World War II Japanese American Internment
Camp Museum in McGehee, Arkansas.
Participation in an online meeting requires some advance
work by both our meeting coordinator and attendees,
especially first-time participants.
Please plan ahead; reread the latest instructions
on the day before the meeting!
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Important Dates
Unless stated otherwise,
our regular monthly CCC Meeting is
in downtown Chicago, and also online,
on the second Wednesday of the month;
the starting time is 6:45PM CT.
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| February |
23 |
Will County Coin Club Show, to be held at Joliet Junior College Agg. Annex,
17840 W. Laraway Road in Joliet, Illinois; 9:00am to 3:30pm. |
| February |
27 to |
March 1 – ANA’s National Money Show
at the Cobb Galleria Centre, Atlanta, Georgia.
Details at
https://www.money.org/NationalMoneyShow |
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| March |
12 |
CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Ray Feller and Steve Feller on Money Used in Japanese-American Internment Camps |
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| April |
9 |
CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Tyler Rossi on to be determined |
| April |
24-26 |
86th Anniversary Convention of the Central States Numismatic Society
at the Schaumburg Renaissance Hotel & Convention Center, 1551 North Thoreau Drive, Schaumburg, IL.
There is a $15 per day admission charge, a 3-day pass for $30, free for youth (17 and under), and free
for CSNS Members.
For details, refer to their website,
https://www.csns.org/ |
| April |
26 |
CCC Meeting - 12pm at the CSNS Convention,
which is held at the Schaumburg Convention Center.
No admission charge for our meeting.
Featured Speaker - to be determined |
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| May |
14 |
CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Joshua Benevento on to be determined |
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| June |
11 |
CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Lianna Spurrier on to be determined |
| July |
9 |
CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - to be determined |
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Club Officers
| Elected positions: |
| Melissa Gumm | - President |
| Deven Kane | - First V.P. |
| Ray Dagenais | - Second V.P. |
| William Burd | - Archivist |
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| Directors: | Tyler Rossi
Mark Wieclaw
Carl Wolf
Steve Zitowsky |
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| John Riley | - Immediate Past President |
| Scott McGowan | - Secretary |
| Elliott Krieter | - Treasurer |
| Paul Hybert | - Chatter Editor, webmaster |
| Jeffrey Rosinia | - ANA Club Representative |
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